User talk:Sean Colombo/Archive/2007 May 12 - Sep 14
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Problem with albums that have "&" in the title
I'm not sure how many other albums are affected, but with Iron_&_Wine:The_Sea_&_The_Rhythm_(2003), the ampersand in the title of the album seems to cause a problem, resulting in an incorrectly titled page. All of Iron & Wine's other albums are fine (example) except this one, which has the ampersand. Is there any way you could fix this?
- Caboose 23:16, 6 April 2007 (EDT)
- Good catch. The problem was that the reg-ex could only handle one ampersand. It is fixed now (sorta... it can handle up to four). Thanks!
- -Sean Colombo 19:56, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
- :(
- I'm a little lost as to why it's messing up in the presence of a forward-slash.
- Here is the gist of the .htaccess file:
ErrorDocument 500 /500.php RewriteEngine on RewriteRule ^[^:]*\.(php|src|jpg|jpeg|png|gif|bmp|css|js|inc|phtml|pl|ico|html|shtml|wsdl|lrc|xml|sql)$ - [L,NC] RewriteRule ^index.php?title - [L] # This can handle up to four ampersands. There is probably a way using [R] to iteratively re-direct until it is fixed completely. RewriteRule ^(.*)\&(.*)$ $1\%26$2 RewriteRule ^(.*)\&(.*)$ $1\%26$2 RewriteRule ^(.*)\&(.*)$ $1\%26$2 RewriteRule ^(.*)\&(.*)$ $1\%26$2 RewriteRule ^(.+)$ /index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]
- Any ideas?
- -Sean Colombo 21:46, 10 April 2007 (EDT)
- It seems that Iron & Wine page is still a little wonky. Any other ideas on how to fix it?
- - Caboose 15:40, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- Oops, I had apparently reverted to the way it was before. So now it's w/the fixed Iron & Wine but the more-b0rked R&B :-/
- If anyone has any ideas on fixing the R&B problem I'd love the help! :)
- -Sean Colombo 15:46, 12 April 2007 (EDT)
- Not a solution, but "/" is "%2F" as an urlencoded string (you obviously can't have "/" unencoded in your URL as that would be seen as a path separator). But in order to actually get to the page you need to substitute the "/" with the urlencoded version of "%2F", i.e. "%252F".
- So there seems to be some pretty weird decoding going on, since http://lyricwiki.org/Category:Genre/R%26B gives you a broken page, http://lyricwiki.org/Category:Genre%2FR%26B gives "404 not found", and http://lyricwiki.org/Category:Genre%252FR%26B (urlencoded twice) finally gives the correct page.
- I hope this at least helps to narrow down the problem.
- --193.145.56.193 10:04, 18 July 2007 (EDT) (Jens)
Server time
Did you know that the Server Time is 10 minutes slow? It is now 10:46 AM - Notice the sig: --Jeff (talk,contrib,E) 10:36, 8 May 2007 (EDT)
- MetalSnake pointed out that the server now seems to be 18 minutes slow.
- -TrevorP 11:39, 17 June 2007 (EDT)
- I just re-stumbled upon this thread and realized that I hadn't taken care of this yet. When I went to the server and did "clock" though it seemed relatively okay (wrong timezone, but right otherwise)... so I made another edit, and the timestamp on the edit was still wrong. Apparently I have to set the clock in mySQL. Does anyone know how to do that? I peeked around online for a while and couldn't find it.
- -Sean Colombo 13:49, 31 July 2007 (EDT)
Copyright Violation 'Spamming'
What do you want to do about this and this?
- teknomunk (talk,E) 12:53, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks for letting me know about that. I'll contact the band and that user (to find out if they're even the same) and figure out a way to work something out.
- Thanks,
- -Sean Colombo 13:12, 14 May 2007 (EDT)
2 Songs of the Day?
For May 18 2007, Uberbot has grabbed two Songs of the Day instead of one. Just thought I'd inform you so you can look into the error. — 0612 (TALK); Posted: 02:58, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
- I took care of removing the extra song back to the queue.
- - teknomunk (talk,E) 03:14, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks! -Sean Colombo 11:49, 18 May 2007 (EDT)
Something wrong with the soap/rest api
Hi. The soap/rest api used to return full url to the new lyric if it wasn't found, now it just links to http://lyricwiki.org. Example: http://lyricwiki.org/api.php?artist=From%20Autumn%20To%20Ashes&song=Vicious%20Cockfigt&fmt=xml .. Is it supposed to be like this or is something wrong? Remiss 15:16, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
- Something was wrong... it's fixed now. Thanks for pointing that out :)
- -Sean Colombo 15:52, 22 May 2007 (EDT)
- Thank you! Remiss 02:30, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
Small bug in asin-tag
Hi,
I've noticed a small bug when I use the asin-tag in the SongFooter. If it's set then the album-link to amazon.com contains a left parenthesis. Here an example (at the bottom): Liquid_Divine:Kaleidoscope --Turok 12:19, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
- That bug was my fault, I am about to fix it (and probably cripple the servers for a bit while it updates)
- - teknomunk (talk,E) 12:30, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
- Sweet, thanks for fixing that :). With the newer servers the site seems to be handling big template updates a lot better than it used to... cool.
- -Sean Colombo 13:00, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
- Wow, that was very fast - you are great, as always. ;-)
- --Turok 14:11, 31 May 2007 (EDT)
User Contributions
Hey, I need help. My user contributions from before I created an account (my ip address) are in a link on my user page. I dont have any on Richmond313 right now except talk pages and SOTD. Once I have things on Richmond313's user contributions, is their any way i could show Richmond313 and the old one's contributions on the same page?
P.S. Sry if i've taken up tons of space in your talk page history with all my edits, im kinda new at lyricwiki =)
-Richmond313 14:01, 2 June 2007 (EDT)
- Hey,
- There is no simple way to combine them that I know of. It's a problem a lot of people have around when they first sign up (myself included)... If you leave that link in your user-page that should be helpful, but in a couple of weeks your previous edits will most likely be so few compared to the edits you have by then that it really won't matter anymore. :)
- -Sean Colombo 18:43, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
- PS: No worries about the history. It might make things easier if you use the "Show Preview" button before saving pages. Thanks for contributing, and welcome to the site!
Oh yeah, that would help =P-Richmond313
Oops, I just found a way to show them on one page. Thanks! -Richmond313 22:56, 3 June 2007 (EDT)
Problem with the spam-filter
Hi! I have a probelm with the spam-fiter when I try to submit the lyrics for Unshine:Deadweight I'm told, that the site was blocked by the spamfilter. Greetings, An-t 09:18, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
- I found the part that was wrong in the spam-filter and fixed it. Thanks for the heads-up!
- -Sean Colombo 09:46, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
- Cool, thank you very much!
- HAND, An-t 10:20, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
Another problem with the spam filter. When trying to link to Paris Hilton's official site the URL http://www.parishilton.com/ triggers it. I suppose ordinary SysOps can't do anything about it, unless it's coded to be turned off for the few of us. You think that's possible? --Frontway 09:44, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
- For Sean:
- To disable the spamfilter for admins, change this line in EditPage.php (about line 565)
if ( $wgSpamRegex && preg_match( $wgSpamRegex, $this->textbox1, $matches ) )
- to
if ( !$wgUser->isAllowed( 'delete' ) && $wgSpamRegex && preg_match( $wgSpamRegex, $this->textbox1, $matches ) ) {
- Yep, that works. I tried to do something in LocalSettings.php instead (so that this wouldn't be affected the next time we upgrade), but the user isn't loaded at that point. Anywho, thanks for figuring it out!
- -Sean Colombo 21:38, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
TMBG:Factory Showroom
Hey. Everytime I try to submit lyrics on the They Might Be Giants page, I'm told that I can't, because the spamfilter detects the song title for the first song on They Might Be Giants: Factory Showroom Thanks, sonofreddo 13:44, 10 July 2007
- Replied on User_talk:Sonofreddo
Album covers
I was wondering what the standard format for album images should be. I thought that it was: "Example_Artist_-_Example_Album.ext" because that is what loads when you push "Upload cover" on an album page without a cover. But recently, a few images have been put up for deletion, and for the reason given they direct me to a correctly formatted image name that has the pattern: "Example_Artist_-_Example_Album_(Year).ext". Which is correct? Or are either acceptable? Also, Kamelot:Dominion (1997) has both image names Image:Kamelot - Dominion.jpg (up for deletion) and Image:Kamelot - Dominion (1997).jpg. When I click on the image on the album page, it goes to the latter, so is this preferred?
I know this is a lot of beating around the bush just to ask you what is correct image naming format for an album cover. Thanks for reading. --WillMak050389 12:00, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
- The album template uses the "Example_Artist_-_Example_Album.ext" pattern to automatically find covers that are uploaded. I've used that pattern since the template was created and don't see any reason for changing it. Most album titles won't occur more than once but if they do, then adding the release year to the name would be appropriate. In any case there may be possible to make the template look for images both with and without the year, though we might end up with duplicate covers in the album page, if we follow your example with the Kamelot ones. --Frontway 20:02, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
- I don't think that there is an "Official" format for the album art, I know I have used randomly named titles before, and probably will again. That is, of course, unless a standard format is agreed upon. As far as I know, there are no scripts trying to get album covers from this site, yet.
- - teknomunk (talk,E,日本) 22:39, 13 June 2007 (EDT)
- For the record, Wiki-Lyrics script can be used to upload album covers through Amarok, and uses the "Example_Artist_-_Example_Album.ext" pattern (it also does a search before to try not to upload an already existing image). If another format is agreed upon, please, let me know. --Attendant 05:02, 14 June 2007 (EDT)
- As a side note, I think this sort of thing is normally discussed in the Community Portal and not on the owner's talk page. ^_^
Wrong chars in page title
Hi. I've tried to move White Tony Joe to Tony Joe White but something bad happened and some illegal characters got into the title so by now White Tony Joe redirects to this page. It can't be moved again to the right title. Can you move/delete it with your admin credentials? I'll be thankful. --Shervinafshar 15:04, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
- Done. Thanks for the heads-up :)
- -Sean Colombo 18:43, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Cache special pages
Can you make it so some of the larger special pages are cached instead of generated per use. This would be especially beneficial for the orphaned pages where there are about ~100,000 songs and it kills the server and takes over a minute to load. Daily would be more than adequate.
YukataNinja 17:01, 7 July 2007 (EDT)
- I'm not sure actually... I'll have to look into that. If anyone else has ever heard of caching Special Pages, please let me know.
- -Sean Colombo 18:18, 7 July 2007 (EDT)
- I asked on the IRC server and I think that the newest mediawiki version does this automatically.
- YukataNinja 20:08, 7 July 2007 (EDT)
- Ouch. Guess we should probably upgrade :-/... yikes!
- We have some non-extension modifications around that make this a bit sticky, but it'd still be doable, and it's probably better to do it sooner than later.
- Thanks for finding that out!
- -Sean Colombo 08:48, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
- After some more asking I got this response from some help person at mediawiki:
- Set $wgMiserMode = true; in LocalSettings.php. Use maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php to re-cache
- Hopefully that helps. YukataNinja 14:56, 10 July 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks! I turned that on (TONS easier than upgrading :D).
- -Sean Colombo 12:15, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
- Wow, good call! I ran the script manually, so the pages are full now, and I've added a cron job for it to run daily (around 3am).
- Thanks,
- -Sean Colombo 10:27, 19 July 2007 (EDT)
- The cached pages are currently limited to only 1000 pages. In mediawiki version 1.9+ you can use $wgQueryCacheLimit to increased/decrease this limit. I think you might be able to hard code a change in earlier versions. Are you still planing on updating?
- - YukataNinja (Talk • C • 歌) 10:22, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
- Not sure yet if we're going to upgrade or not... about the caching: how high do you think we should bump it?
- -Sean Colombo 10:34, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
- 50,000? I think there are about 100,000 orphans. But I don't know if this would kill the server for a full hour or something...
- - YukataNinja (Talk • C • 歌) 22:36, 5 August 2007 (EDT)
They Might Be Giants
The They Might Be Giants page failed to save an edit because of the character sequence eS-E-eX, which is just part of one of their songs: eS-E-eX-X-Y (without the lower case e's). Oddly enough, this bit of text was already in the wiki when I made my edit, but still prevented me from saving my edit. --Drukepple 12:56, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
- That should be fixed now (I can't test it though since the spam-filter ignores admins). Please let me know if it's still broken.
- -Sean Colombo 13:14, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
- Works now, thank you very much!
- --Drukepple 16:12, 23 July 2007 (EDT)
Deletion time
First of all, I bow to you for making LyricWiki. Lovely. Very lovely. I always wanted to learn making wiki documents but Wikipedia is just so...belittling :D Even the sandboxes.
Anyhow, just wanted to ask, how often do you and the other administrators look for pages up for deletion? Because I made a duplicate page and tagged the old page for deletion.
Thanks
--Storymasterq 04:53, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks! Welcome to the site... I'm glad you like it :)
- We're don't really have a schedule for checking deletions... just whenever we think of it (or someone mentions it to us and it's getting to be a long list). This list looked like it was getting kind of long now, so I went through most of them.
- Thanks for bringing that to my attention,
- -Sean Colombo 09:51, 26 July 2007 (EDT)
Hi, Problem with Coldplay page
I don't know where to go or if I must write this on here I've been editing the Coldplay page and there's no problem on the lyrics the problem is that when you access the page of Coldplay , the ads and the logo and the other bars, are in bad position, just check it cause I don't know if I can fix that and it's the only page I've seen that does that see ya!
I think I have now fixed this, a lot of div tags were strewn about. See Coldplay. --WillMak050389 22:39, 27 July 2007 (EDT)
- Looks fixed to me. Thanks WillMak!
- -Sean Colombo 08:44, 28 July 2007 (EDT)
Collaboration / SOAP
Hi Sean, there is a message for you at User:Sgallese. --Mischko
11:20, 29 July 2007 (EDT)
- Thanks Mischko!
- -Sean Colombo 05:34, 30 July 2007 (EDT)
Who's Andrew Horne?
Looks like your Uberbot loves him. He always approves his SOTD nominations, every song that he nominates!!! What's wrong? Is the so-called Andrew Horne a donator? Thanks, Colombo. User:Marhadiasa 01 Aug 20.55 GMT +7
- Howdy.... Andrew Horne is no one out of the ordinary (and not a donator), he just decided to nominate a bunch of songs. You are more than welcome to nominate a bunch of songs as well! :)
- We generally approve most nominations, and if not, the reasons for denying them are given so that people can re-submit. It's not that we pick from a pool each day, it's more of a first-come first-serve. Andrew Horne actually nominated so many songs that the queue has been full for a while, so I haven't pulled any nominations over in a while. It looks a bit backed up! I'll head over to that and take care of it.
- -Sean Colombo 11:10, 1 August 2007 (EDT)
- If "Andrew Horne is no one out of the ordinary", then why did he have TWO SOTD's for August 3, 2007? Bruce Springsteen:Bobby Jean and Diana Ross:If We Hold On Together. Methinks there was probably a format issue that confused the Bot. :-)
- --Jeff Saul (T-C-E) 11:41, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
- Haha, yeah. If Uberbot doesn't find two br's in a row, he keeps looking until he does find them. I think I pulled the wikitext for that one over from the nominations to the queue, so I was supposed to catch that... Oopsie! It's fixed now.
- Thanks for the heads-up!
- -Sean Colombo 11:47, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
Special:Soapfailures Logging
Do you think that you could add logging to this page, similar to what I (we) did with Special:Batchmove. For example, to show which pagenames (as links) are checked and when redirects are used and such. I think that this would help other people in tracking down errors in the SOAP lookup code and so that we can give a better report when things don't work. Be verbose in logging.
- teknomunk (talk,E,歌) 23:33, 11 August 2007 (EDT)
P.S. I just checked your pedlr page and realized that the break you took was your honeymoon. Congratulations on your marriage.
- Thanks :D
- For the logging, I've been using something similar (there is a debug-mode built into the SOAP), but it doesn't have a front-end... I've been just re-writing the hard-coded artist/song names each time. I'll build a front-end for it really quickly: probably like 15 minutes.
- -Sean Colombo 23:40, 11 August 2007 (EDT)
- Alrighty, it's hideous, but it works: http://lyricwiki.org/client.php
- -Sean Colombo 00:11, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
Christian artists
Would it be possible to run your list against another list of Christian artists I could get? Because Cornerstone Festival is the largest Christian music festival that I know of, and its wikipedia page (link above) and its official website have a list of artists that went to that festival this year. Right now I don't have much time to look over your list, but I will try over the next few days. --WillMak050389 21:43, 27 August 2007 (EDT)
- You're welcome, here's a few I just noticed: 4 Him, 12 Stones, and Stryper. Hope all goes well! --WillMak050389 22:13, 27 August 2007 (EDT)
Another Spam Filter problem
I am trying to format the Paris Hilton page, and entering her official site tripped the filter. It said to contact an admin, but I am one, so what do I need to do to allow my submission to be saved? --WillMak050389 12:46, 3 September 2007 (EDT)
- I just made it so that the spam-filter doesn't apply to Admins anymore.
- -Sean Colombo 21:38, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

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