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[edit] API

[edit] Offer to Help out

Hey Sean.

My name's Matt, I run http://www.eternalduel.com/. Its a pretty heavy traffic site and I'm used to the problems of dealing with huge numbers of hits per second - I run custom web serving software with special compilation options and memcached. I read your message recently about needing to add more ads to cover your costs - I've got heaps of spare server processing power and I'm happy to host your site at no cost. My MSN is darkcell@gmail.com and my email is admin@eternalduel.com if you want me to help ya out.

Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong spot, didn't know how else to contact you guys though.

Thanks! Matt

Hey Matt,

Thanks for the offer! That would be great if it worked out. Unfortunately, it probably takes more (ie: expensive) servers to run the site than you're thinking (we're at about 3MM pages per day). If hosting as many servers as we need (4 currently, bordering on 5) is more than you can handle for free (that would be a lot to ask of you), we're ALWAYS looking for scaling advice from other people who have been through scaling problems.

I've written a more detailed reply that I'm emailing you (with server specs, etc.)

Thanks,

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 14:57, 15 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Broken again

I'm getting errors when trying to connect to LyricWiki using the Amarok script Wiki-Lyrics.

Warning: mysql_connect() [function. mysql-connect]: Host 'pedlfaster. pedlr. com' is blocked because of many connection errors; unblock with 'mysqladmin flush-hosts' in /var/www/html/lyricwiki. org/server. php on line 150
 
 Warning: mysql_select_db(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/html/lyricwiki. org/server. php on line 151
 
 Warning: mysql_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/html/lyricwiki. org/server. php on line 1460
 
 Warning: mysql_query(): supplied argument is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in /var/www/html/lyricwiki. org/server. php on line 1333

Thanks for the head's up. Our second database server was having the same problems as the other. It's fixed temporarily, and I'll go do the permanent fix right now.

Thanks again,

-Sean Colombo 07:10, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] About searchSongs() method

Hello! It would be great to get this function, though there is no reason to stress about it.

Another thing I'm wondering; I can't belive it's hard to get this (and many other) function(s) to work. Am I wrong? If not, why does it take so long to make the functions?

Hi hi :)

It's not "hard" so much as there are just a million different things we can be doing to improve things (around here or some of the other sites I've done). So the challenge is just deciding what to do... once I get on it, it should go pretty quickly. I'll try to get on it tonight or tomorrow. UPDATE: This didn't happen :(

-Sean Colombo 18:45, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

Follow-up since it's been A YEAR... searchSongs() isn't on the roadmap at the moment because searching is an server-intensive operation and it wouldn't be able to handle traffic on the level that the API would need. In the future we might be able to write one for big sites to use, but we'd have to charge for it to pay for the extra servers it would take just to serve these requests. So long-story-short, don't expect searchSong() any time soon, but if you pass the title and artist into getSong(), even if they're mangled and use nick-names, abbreviations, or misspellings we'll generally be able to find a match.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:49, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] SOAP Functions

Hi,

Just want to say great job and thanks for the webservice. I've been experimenting (in PHP) with the 'get/check/search' functions and so far these are my findings;

checkSongExists
this works apart from casing issues such as System Of A Down:CUBErt
can't be found (normalising the case for a search/check/get would
probably be the best solution rather that create lots of re-directs)

searchArtists
doesn't work: always returns Tool and Ozzy Osbourne

searchAlbums
doesn't work: always returns two Pink Floyd albums

searchSongs
doesn't work: always returns Beethoven:Moonlight Sonata

getSong
works (but still has casing issue as above)

getArtist
works

getAlbum
doesn't work: always returns Staind - Chapter V

Are my findings correct or have I missed something?

I want to use your SOAP webservice in an experimental project and was wondering if there is an estimated completion date for these functions? I think the search functions would be very useful as the users will be typing in the artist/album/song and unless they are letter perfect they will be disappointed :) If there's anything I can do to help get the services up and running I would be very pleased to help if I can.

Thanks again, Simon (si.matthews (AT) gmail (D0T) com)

Ps. Every page viewed in IE7 has a syntax error on line 3 (another reason I don't use it but thought you should know!) also apologies if this is not in an acceptable format.

Is this searchSongs() fixed now? I still find searchSongs() only returning: song: "'Moonlight Sonata', artist: 'Beethoven'" every time.

Using the webservice, how do I search for a song if I don't know the artist name?

Hi,

Sorry but searchSongs() does not work. The problem is that we have so many items in the database that searching through them (and doing it as rapidly as the API would demand) is too much work for the servers. We haven't been able to come up with a fast enough way to pull it off. If anyone has any ideas on how to do that (or what sub-set of searching WOULD be useful) please let me know.

That's probably going to be the most likely way that this will get fixed (some sort of limited search).

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 22:46, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Server stuff

[edit] Special:Allpages

This special page appears to be working. BotUm (talk • contribs) uses to to parse pages. It seems to have quit working recently (check BotUm's contribs to see the exact moment!). 'Looks like its a cache thing. Anything I can do? --Åqúàŧĩkī - É - Ŧ 14:24, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

It's working again. I'm pretty sure this is the same error that was reported slightly later, User_talk:Sean_Colombo#Bug_Report here.

Thanks for the bug-report! :)

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 12:50, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Uncategorized

[edit] Watch Entire Artists

Hi, is there a way to view all recent changes for an artist? The only way I found is this but that doesn't include all changes. In other words: is it possible to watch an artist namespace? Greets, Firehawk 14:39, 12 December 2007 (EST)

Hmm, that's a good idea... but no, there isn't a way yet. That's not to say that there couldn't be. I guess we could add a tab to an artist page that says "Watch Artist" and would just batch-watch each of that artist's pages (watching for new pages would be tricky with MediaWiki though). Hmm.....

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 14:50, 12 December 2007 (EST)

[edit] A few things

First off, the reason I started making this post. I noticed that the main page was wasting a lot of space under the left and right columns. Since I had some spare time, I made a test layout at Template:Main Page/Test.

Next, I should be having a lot of spare time over the next week or so and I thought I would try to take a crack at the SOAP API. If you don't mind sending me the code so that I can see what I can do to get it working under 1.11.x and 1.12.x (future-proof it). I also might implement a few of the functions that are missing. Maybe.

And finally, I have a box that I can use for testing things before they go on the live server, if you want. I should be able to get you an SSH login once we get the slave database fixed.

As always, I'm here to help.
- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 03:29, 14 March 2008 (EDT)

post-hoc note: I sent this. Turns out the SOAP can't run fast enough as a SpecialPage so we're keeping it standalone for now. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs)

Hi, Teknomunk;

I was so happy you decided to take a crack at SOAP API...

But surprisingly (for me) things seem to be not as simple as I've imagined...

Can you give us at least some comment, what's the situation now with SOAP API (Sean again is keeping silence regarding all WS-related questions...)

--Senvaikis 11:10, 24 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Microformats

An anonymous user has posted a comment about microformats in two places on our site (I would think that the discussion will be taking place on LyricWiki talk:Community Portal). I think I had mentioned something about this to you in IRC. I would appreciate you leaving your thoughts on the matter.
- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 04:23, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

NOTE: We ended up resolving this (I think in IRC). The crux of it is that we couldn't find a microformat for lyrics that made sense for us right now (none were standardized enough or very useful). People could use Dapps or Yahoo! Pipes to convert the data if they need it in these formats.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs)

[edit] Spamalamadingdong.

Spammers got ahead while I wasn't looking. This is just a reminder to myself to sit down for a while and work on bulking up the defenses.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:07, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] MusicBrainz Template

Hey, some time ago I created a template for MusicBrainz artists and releases and asked Teknomunk if he could add this to the Artist template respectively the AlbumFooter template. But he seems kinda swamped, so maybe you could take a look at this. Feel free to adjust the template to your liking. Firehawk 07:11, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

Recently, we found out what kind of pain the server can get into when updating a template that appears on virtually every page. I looked into it a bunch and I'm hoping I understand it a bit better now. I'm going to give this a shot now to test out our ability to actually handle this. If the site comes to a crawl, you know why! lol.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:01, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

Err... nevermind. I don't really know how to put that in there. I tried something out, but there really isn't an effective preview function for templates. Hopefully this is something Teknomunk can try on his test wiki so that I don't break things.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:06, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

I'll take a crack at it now. By the way, I've been trying to do a checkout of the svn stuff and can't seem to get it to work. I'm in IRC.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (EDT)

NOTE: It's in the footer now. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 18:02, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] {{AlbumFooter}}

I updated AlbumFooter a little today, so I was hoping I could get everybody to keep an eye out for hiccups. Mainly, now the footer accepts |musicbrainz = and nothing else should be wrong.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 15:58, 19 May 2008 (EDT)

Cool... I'm now running the template-update jobs manually, so all the pages with that template should be updated soon. You can track that on the Special:Statistics page where it says "job queue length".

Thanks for updating that - It'll be nice to have musicbrainz working in there.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 07:49, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] STAF

Hey Sean, thanks for the code, it's amazing! :-)

Had to remove some of the code, mainly the backwards compatibility stuff in extras.php to make it work under MW 1.12...now all I need is a working sendmail, as the extension works. *grin* --Jack Phoenix _(Contact) 06:17, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

Glad to see it works. If you run into any other problems, please let myself or Sean know. (by the way, what section of code did you have to remove for 1.12?)

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 09:35, 1 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Errors from SOTD update at 02:57, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Add More to Song Of The Day Queue

Automated warning: Sean, there are only 2 songs left in the queue. Please add more from the Song of the Day talk page.

-ÜberBot 02:57, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Good GRIEF! I was working on the queue when ÜberBot snatched the latest SOTD. How did you program it to be psychic?!?!?!? You are a rockin' programmer! *WHEW* I'm goin' to bed. Kiefer talk contribs admin 03:38, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Maybe it's you who's psychic since you were already working on the queue before we were told that we were low on songs! Impressive skillz.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:28, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Batchmove1

NOTE: These three batch-move sections were spread all over my way-too-long userpage, but I've put them all next to each other here for easier reference -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs)

There is something wrong with Batchmove. I keep getting fatal errors on line 162, and it's been quite some time since it's worked. Just wanted make sure you knew.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 04:00, 9 May 2008 (EDT) PS, also: Special:Wikify is broken as well.

That's not good. I'll have to get on that. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:28, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

These are both fixed now. Wowza, this was reported a long time ago. :( Sorry.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:36, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Batchmove2

Batch move doesn't seem to be working, though it may be because I am trying to move it with a special character. I was trying to move "Russel Allen & Jorn Lande":* to "Russell Allen & Jørn Lande":* . Just thought I'd let you know. --Will M a k 050389 18:45, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Just tried someone different "Anthony da Costa":* to "Anthony Da Costa":* (no special characters in this one) and it keeps giving me the following error: Fatal error: Call to a member function doEdit() on a non-object in /var/www/html/lyricwiki.org/extensions/LyricWiki/Special_BatchMove.php on line 162. Hope that helps! --Will M a k 050389 19:04, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

This was just fixed. Thanks for reporting it & sorry I didn't get around to it faster!!

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:39, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Batchmove3

Its been a while since I've been able to use Special:Batchmove and Special:Wikify, and there are a few things I'd like to be able to apply them to. I know you have been busy with getting things working after that last outage, so I don't mean to nag.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 02:50, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

Thanks for bumping this thread again :) I think I've fixed the batchmove now. A working version of Wikify that isn't a SpecialPage can be found here, but I'll work on fixing the Wikify page also (I think there were some other broken pages too?).

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:27, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Prevent Blanking of pages

King_Nee1114 mentioned something about pages being blanked on User talk:Kiefer, so I wrote an extension to prevent it (if you want it, of course). I've already committed it to subversion, so just grab it from there.
- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 22:29, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Thanks! This has been uploaded.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:37, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Redxx

I'd just like to make a suggestion: User:Redxx has been here for some time and has done a lot of work here (with a lot of potential: the two of us have been trying to fix up Frank Sinatra). She has always been real careful with her edits, asking to make sure what she was doing was within policy, whenever she had doubts. I think she deserves to be offered admin privileges (I mean, as long as no one has any objections). Also because we always need as much help as possible, and I'm sure she'd be able to help more with the tools. --Will M a k 050389 21:28, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Seconded, even though I'll never hear the end of it. :-] We each have our own niches/specialties/abilities, and she would complement and add new abilities to those. Kiefer talk contribs admin 21:47, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I agree as well. I often see her edits while I'm checking things and feel she has what it would take to be an admin.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 22:54, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

I'll jump on the bandwagon here, too.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 00:39, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Great idea, guys. I'll ask her.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 13:54, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Uploading album art

I'm currently being told, whether I'm trying to upload a .jpg, .gif, or .png, that it is "not a recommended image file format." Kiefer talk contribs admin 22:22, 10 May 2008 (EDT)

Still happening, by the way. I keep trying to upload a picture for Weezer:Weezer (The Red Album) (2008), and keep getting turned down. I'm not used to rejection! Kiefer talk contribs admin 12:55, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

[1]

I think something in the file name was tripping things up. I changed the name, and retyped the .jpg part, and it worked

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 17:03, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

Hmm, weird. What was the original filename?

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:06, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

No, I changed it a bit. But at least now the file is present...

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 17:13, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I'm curious what the name was before you changed it. Maybe if there is an illegal character, we can warn people about that so they don't have the same frustrating experience. -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:18, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

It was "Weezer - Weezer (The Red Album).jpg" Perhaps the parentheses? I'll test...be back. Okay, parentheses seem to be fine, so it must have been a weird character in the original link. Something with the period, as I believe I changed everything in the original link except for the period. But something funky happened, because the picture as "Weezer - Weezer (The Red Album).jpg" already existed and should have appeared on the page. Plus, it was having trouble with .jpg, .gif, and .png. Kiefer talk contribs admin 21:14, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

I guess one of the characters is non-Latin. Even if they look alike: a & 'äåÅ', e & 'é', o & 'ö', and so on. So it's a file name problem, not a file type problem. Or something wrong after uploading? But in this case, it's before uploading.--Tomin 13:00, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Copyrights and what have you

I just wanted to check, to make sure, that this stance on copyright permissions is still accurate. Do we still actively pay royalties for lyrics with due dilligence?
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 18:15, 20 May 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Uploading problems

The requested URL could not be retrieved

While trying to retrieve the URL: http://lyricwiki.org/Special:Upload

The following error was encountered:

   * Zero Sized Reply

Squid did not receive any data for this request.

Your cache administrator is root. Generated Wed, 21 May 2008 16:26:14 GMT by squid1.lyricwiki.org (squid/2.6.STABLE6)

(Error raises regardles of type/size/name of image file trying to upload) --Senvaikis 16:57, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Not sure what's causing this yet. When I use the server directly instead of through the squid cache, it gives a completely blank page back (as the error would kind of suggest).

I'll keep looking into it, but if anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:11, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

I started tailing the Apache logs, and for some reason, there is no error when I try to upload a file. :-/

I'll keep poking at it, but this is WEIRD!

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:52, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Just to let you know: Special:Deadendpages returns zero sized reply also.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 18:01, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

Don't wanna pile on, but so does Special:BrokenRedirects. --Will M a k 050389 18:35, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

I've checked all three of the pages mentioned here and they all seem to be working now. I'm going to assume that the problem was related to the no-hard-disk-space problems from earlier in the week. If you guys see this pop up again, please let me know.

Thanks once again for the head's up! :)

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:44, 1 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Replication problems, aka 'unsought caching' - again?

Hi, Sean, some symptoms (see my and Kiefer talk pages) definitely point that server DB replication is out of control again...--Senvaikis 17:27, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Errors from SOTD update at 02:53, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Error: No SOTD found.

-ÜberBot 02:53, 6 June 2008 (EDT)

Fixed -Sean Colombo (talk|contribs)

[edit] Disambiguation pages

Didn't know quite who I should inform on this, but the template link on this page Special:Disambiguations needs correcting from Template:Disambig to Template:Disam. I can't do it myself of course because there is no edit facilty for page. In any event, I would think twice about doing it, since being a bit green in such matters (), I don't know if simply correcting the template link would enable the generation of the stats that I believe should be displaying on this page. _♫Яєd_xx_♪♫♪_♫♪^Talk 07:52, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Hmm. Oops. Seems the MediaWiki software was written to use Template:Disambig but we used Template:Disam.

In order to make it so that we can upgrade versions without breaking things, we should probably switch to using Template:Disambig. Sounds like a job for ÜberBot!

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:34, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I didn't think of that, I guess. I have made {{Disambig}}, so all that is needed is switching from the old to the new.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 12:50, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

I think I am going to just do it by hand. I am almost there, and there was something I wanted to check for and modify anyway.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 13:19, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

K thanks guys _♫Яєd_xx_♪♫♪_♫♪^Talk 13:49, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Kiefer

I've been looking at Kiefer and I think you should offer him bureaucracy. He'll be quite the bureaucrat. Sean gorter talk ESPERANZA!!! 06:40, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Help!

Lately I have been working on a way to get more stuff into the {{Artist}} and {{AlbumFooter}} templates, and I have run into a block getting allmusicguide working. for what ever reason, AMG hates 'the's in URL queries. (simple example: query for 'The+Decemberists' and all you get is a band called 'Thedel'. However, query for 'Decemberists' and it brings you right to 'The Decemberists'). So what I need is a mechanism to get rid of that 'the' before making a query. Any thougths?
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 02:40, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Sorry for the long delay! I missed this somehow.

Anywho... I don't know how we can do that, but maybe we could write an extension or something that lets us perform certain functions on text? I've been thinking we need something like this so that we could do post-processing on the top 100 songs to put them in our format (they're often red-links even if we have the lyrics already).

Did you come up with any ideas in my long silence?

Sorry again,

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 00:26, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

OK, I forgive you (And don't worry, no big. I figured you were busy :) ) I do have an idea, and it comes in the form of a parser function extension StringFunctions. #pos and #sub seemed like they would get the job done.

Related to this, I have a question about Mediawiki:Newsong. When a new page is added, newsong calculates the proper output. In the case of 'Artist:The Song' in the song footer:

{{SongFooter
|artist = Artist
|song  = The Song
|fLeter = S
}}

How does newsong know that 'the' is there, and should therefore be skipped? In that case, might answering that help toward some sort of string processing that we are (apparenly both) looking for?

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 01:45, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

(And thanks again!)

There is a function in that particular extension that calculates the first letter of a string. It explicitly checks for the word 'The' at the start and skips it.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 01:55, 29 June 2008 (EDT)

I see. Well, that is exactly what I need, but it does not sound like something I can use on the user-side of the site.

I keep thinking up good reasons to get that stringfunctions extenstion. (what I mean by this is: now we could break {{PAGENAME}} from artistname:songname into artistname and songname separately. For page footers, that would be a huge boost in searchablity and ease of use!) I will say this: If you install that on LyricWiki, you won't have to buy me anything for Christmas.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 01:34, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Actually, several of those functions used internally for the new page template (and suprise!) have been exposed as magic words. In total, all of the strings calculated are:

{{ARTIST}}
{{ALBUM}}
{{SONG}}
{{SONGFLETTER}}
{{ARTISTFLETTER}}
{{ALBUMFLETTER}}
{{ALBUMYEAR}}
{{PAGETYPE}}
{{NATIVEARTIST}}
{{ROMANARTIST}}

All of this information is pulled from the page title. Right now, several of these may give a red link to a template page because the function does not have any default values for these magic words. I'll be fixing that shortly and submit it to Sean.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 19:33, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

OK, very good. I'd Never known of these. However, I cannot seem to get them to work when I want to. I'll work on that, though. Also, to do what I wanted to do, someone would have to program an 11th, {{ARTISTSORTNAME}} or whatever to remove 'the's from the artistname.

Thanks for letting me know about these, I am going to see what I can all do with them.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 20:16, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

It does not seem like these can be used in templates. Am I doing something wrong?

I'll go check on these. When I exposed them, I didn't check to see if they worked with templates. And I'll write the ARTISTSORTNAME. It may be a while before they are active on the site, however, because Sean will have to okay it first.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 21:29, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

Awesome. These will make things a lot easier.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 22:00, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

It has been submitted to svn, just waiting on the big guy to give the okay and upload it to the live server. ARTISTSORTNAME strips 'The' from the start of the string.

And Sean, as of this writting, I haven't submitted a parser function for sterilizing links for the Top 100 and the like, but it I will be getting that written shortly.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 22:35, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

The code for #sterilizeTitle has now been submitted as well.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 23:41, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

All very cool. Just to confirm: these will now (after updating) behave just like {{PAGENAME}}. Templates, SUBST:, and all?

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 23:48, 30 June 2008 (EDT)

If I did it correctly this time, yes. My tests worked in templates, but there is always the chance I missed something.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 00:03, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

How does one get to that 'testing' LW that you have? I know that you showed it to me once, but I lost the URL...

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 00:22, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Right now, you can't get to it from the internet; it is behind a router now. I have an install on my workstation of MediaWiki 1.7.1 and all needed software to run it. When I gave out the test server url, I was at school and had a static IP address. I'll have that again in the fall (mid-August). Until then, there is not much I can do to give you a preview of things I'm working on.

- teknomunk (talk,E,歌,A) 00:29, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Shweet! It's awesome to wake up and see all of this stuff done already :D ... I'll upload the new temlate stuff right now.

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 07:55, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Cooooolio. They work now. Thanks for the upgrades Teknomunk! Let me know if you guys have any problems or see any bugs pop up.

Thanks!

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:43, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Lovin' it! Thanks both.

You know what this means, right? Many templates we use could have optional fields, instead of required ones. (Y/N)?

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 14:15, 1 July 2008 (EDT)

Ah, true! Neato :)

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 18:02, 10 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Bug Report

Redxx and I have noticed that most of the Special Pages receive a Zero Sized Reply. I was hoping I could petition you to get them running again. Thanks.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 11:17, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

I think that has something to do with the job-queue being huge. Not entirely sure how they're connected but there seems to be a correlation (maybe the Special pages try to run some jobs or something? Hopefully that's all.

There must be a lot of template changes going on because the job-queue is above 2 million and we don't even have a million pages! :) I'll start running some processes to try to get through the jobs.

Thanks for the head's up!

- Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 12:08, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Ah! That explains it. The script that runs our jobs had an error in it that was most likely also in the other Special pages also. So the long job queue wasn't causing the bug, but was rather caused by the same bug.

Hopefully all is fixed now. If the special pages still aren't working, please let me know (and include an example page to check plz).

Thanks again!

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 12:13, 5 July 2008 (EDT)

Sorry Sean still not working Special:BrokenRedirects _♫Яєd_xx_♪♫♪_♫♪^Talk 17:55, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Yup, no workee. Kiefer talk contribs admin 23:25, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Is there an end in sight for the glitch to the Special pages? There are a few pages that need to be protected and currently can't be. (Zero Sized Reply) Kiefer talk contribs admin 21:30, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

Not yet... I'll take another stab at it right now and hopefully it'll become obvious what's wrong.

Work has kind of run dry for me, without any special pages available. I've been going through deletion requests to pass the time, and happened upon a question as to those artists with switched names (Caldwell Bobby for your Bobby Caldwell, Hund Bob for your Bob Hund). Should pages with switched names be redirected or deleted?

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 00:24, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

Sorry about the holdup... hopefully I can unbreak what I broke so we can get back to the good stuff again!

As for those pages, it's hard to say... I tend to just make sure all the pages have been moved (if applicable) then throw in a redirect. Redirects don't have very much overhead, and if they're there it'll stop the same bug from happening again (I assume that poorly tagged music files are how those names get reversed to start with).

I'll leave a note here if I get things fixed. Thanks for everything,

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:07, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

All of the Special Pages I've tried appear to be working now. :( I'd be happy about that if I had any reason to believe that they'll keep working. I guess I'll have to be faster next time. If it pops up again, please leave me a message with a link and I'll try to drop everything and look into it as soon as I get a notification that my page changed.

At least things are working though :/

-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 08:30, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

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